Chris: California guy attending law school in Denver with his wife and daughter. Student of all trades, master of few, would rather be bodyboarding or sitting back and watching his Lakers, his Dodgers, his Cougars, or taking in a good movie.
Adam: Conservative becoming Libertarian. Enjoys mountain biking and backcountry ski touring. Is scared of the government Juggernaut and being squashed by The Man. Aspiring writer, food storage hawk, and James Taranto wannabe. Has never met Lance Armstrong, but thinks he once saw Dan Reeves on New Year's Eve in Park City, UT. Has a growing affection for wool flannel shirts.
Ryan: Self-taught stock trader, MBA in Organizational Behavior, expert historian, baseball statistician savant, currently on an expat assignment in Brighton, UK. Devoted Mt. Dew drinker, please ship me some out here.
Josh: Private equity fund accountant, but definitely no bean counter. Prospective MBA, True boarder (wake- and snow-), Classic Rock buff, Red Bull addict, has a near photographic memory, lives in Salt Lake City with wife and son.
Sam: Your token left-leaning author. HR professional. Enjoys triathlon, dancing, reading, beef jerky and American Civil War history. Lives in Missouri with wife and two daughters.
Bitner: Plays basketball, softball, flag football and golf whenever possible. Thinks all-you-can-eat breakfast is a human right. Is not in triathlon shape but wishes he were. Loves Ruth's Chris for any occasion. MBA Candidate 2011. Lives in Virginia with wife, daughter, and son.
You know, I thought of that. Maybe. I'll certainly be cautious at first, but their bread and butter is going to be security and they've certainly shown themselves to be a competent company.
My question is more to the ethics side and I don't know that any company has ever had access to as much information as Google has and will have. This is unprecedented. Their ability to acquire booming ideas and innovate on their own does not equate to an ability to be ethical.
I'm not calling them UNethical, just suggesting that competence or innovation does not predict ethical business.
This goes back a lot farther than the OS, too. And it will be a massive debate in the next decade, imo.
if you think your info is not already in the cloud, you are mistaken.
This concept is not revolutionary and it is not new. And it will not change everything.
What google has is too much time on their hands 10,000 employees in Palo Alto, what the hell are they doing? Because there are only a few coming up with Ideas like Chrome and that other emaily like thing.
I call it a bubble, that zI expect will burst within 18 months.
I think SB has a point regarding us already being in the clouds. I'm an avid GMAIL user and Google stores every email I've ever sent or received and I can access it whenever I want, which I really like. Technically, they would also have access to that same information. So, confidential emails aren't really confidential. Any attachments, such as photos or documents, would also be stored on their servers.
SB, how has Apple already done this? I'm a Mac and iPhone owner, but I don't see the parallel.
Josh, Apple does it but at a cost of a on hunny dollar a year MobileMe account.
Gladwell has an interesting corollary to the information age (e.g., social networking, emailing, texting, etc.) that I think might apply given the very valid privacy concerns you mention, Bitner. He brought up the point that now that most forms of electronic communication have lost since lost their feeling of fun, we invest less energy in them (Remember writing fatty emails back as a freshman when you truly discovered high speed internet? Compare that to the two-liners we usually send out now). Anyway, the thinking is that now we'll rely more again on real, actual conversations.
I'm thinking that the cost of convenience in the cloud will be that we'll learn to be more selective as to what we put out there, favoring more person-to-person (or at least vocal) conversations over electronic ones. In short, this is another cause for the pendulum to swing the other way a bit.
Keeping score implies something important is on the line; it begets passion, competition and even conflict. In keeping score we size up the issues we believe are important -- issues that we are willing to voice our opinion about without any expectation of accord or tacit approval. So call it how you see it.
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Anybody else concerned about Google's access to all the information - personal and otherwise - that resides in the cloud?
You know, I thought of that. Maybe. I'll certainly be cautious at first, but their bread and butter is going to be security and they've certainly shown themselves to be a competent company.
I had the same reaction. However, I'm intrigued. The concept sounds pretty sexy.
No question Google is 'competent.'
They're a bit more than that.
My question is more to the ethics side and I don't know that any company has ever had access to as much information as Google has and will have. This is unprecedented. Their ability to acquire booming ideas and innovate on their own does not equate to an ability to be ethical.
I'm not calling them UNethical, just suggesting that competence or innovation does not predict ethical business.
This goes back a lot farther than the OS, too. And it will be a massive debate in the next decade, imo.
if you think your info is not already in the cloud, you are mistaken.
This concept is not revolutionary and it is not new. And it will not change everything.
What google has is too much time on their hands 10,000 employees in Palo Alto, what the hell are they doing? Because there are only a few coming up with Ideas like Chrome and that other emaily like thing.
I call it a bubble, that zI expect will burst within 18 months.
And oh yeah, apple already does this.
I think SB has a point regarding us already being in the clouds. I'm an avid GMAIL user and Google stores every email I've ever sent or received and I can access it whenever I want, which I really like. Technically, they would also have access to that same information. So, confidential emails aren't really confidential. Any attachments, such as photos or documents, would also be stored on their servers.
SB, how has Apple already done this? I'm a Mac and iPhone owner, but I don't see the parallel.
Hence, my comment that this goes back a lot farther than the lauch of OS.
Thanks to RG, I've been a Gmailer since the beta days. I love me some Gmail (and many other google products).
But I am concerned that it's already out of control in terms of information privacy and we just haven't seen it become a problem yet for/with Google.
apple, in terms of multiple devices, one account and quick boot up. And quick connections, already done.
googles core competency is its search engine, which is good enough for the average consumer and brilliant from a business perspective.
But when they go out to these other 'places' it is more of a 'me too' vs 'me first' They may do some of it better, but not all.
Josh, Apple does it but at a cost of a on hunny dollar a year MobileMe account.
Gladwell has an interesting corollary to the information age (e.g., social networking, emailing, texting, etc.) that I think might apply given the very valid privacy concerns you mention, Bitner. He brought up the point that now that most forms of electronic communication have lost since lost their feeling of fun, we invest less energy in them (Remember writing fatty emails back as a freshman when you truly discovered high speed internet? Compare that to the two-liners we usually send out now). Anyway, the thinking is that now we'll rely more again on real, actual conversations.
I'm thinking that the cost of convenience in the cloud will be that we'll learn to be more selective as to what we put out there, favoring more person-to-person (or at least vocal) conversations over electronic ones. In short, this is another cause for the pendulum to swing the other way a bit.
I think that is a very good observation.
Adam - have you noticed a reduction in your wordiness? ;)
No.
ha! very well played.
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